Wednesday, January 18, 2006

Film Club 2K6 Vol 2


Okay, it’s only week 2 and I’ve already fallen off of the horse. I only really saw one new movie with which to write about. But I’ll try to put something together anyway.

End of the Spear

Okay, so I was supposed to see a preview screening of this movie last week over on Capitol Hill. Since I work less than 5 minutes from the theater, I had a couple of hours to kill before the movie. Naturally, I and a couple of friends of mine decided to go have a couple of drinks at a nearby bar to pass the time.

Two hours later I was drunk.

Suffice to say I really don’t have anything to say about the movie except that I’m sure it was good, and I probably would have recommended it. If you’re curious what it’s about, check out its page on IMDB here.

Batman and Robin

Now, technically I had already seen this movie nearly a decade ago. However it was so bad I walked out of the theater, so I hadn’t actually seen the end. So, when I got the Batman box set, I was given the chance to experience this movie one more time.

I was actually quite curious to check it out. I only vaguely remembered the flick, and it was considered such a disaster that even Joel Schumacher had publicly apologized for it. The box set comes with a really interesting, no holds barred, documentary about the series, and I found the candidness about what they had to say about this film was rekindling my urge to see the film.

Anyway…it sucks. But it doesn’t just suck. This is so amazingly awful that you can’t help but at least wonder how it got made in the first place. I literally couldn’t find one redeeming aspect of the entire two hour experience. A quote from “Billy Madison” kept creeping into my head:

“Mr. Schumacher, the movie you’ve made is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

Now, Schumacher has since said that the studio was insisting on two things.
1. That the film be even more family friendly than Batman Forever.
That’s easier said than done. Batman is not Spider-man. He’s naturally a dark character and, if he’s done right (see Batman Begins), he shouldn’t be family friendly. It’s contrary to the spirit of the character. You may as well have Darth Vader working a lemonade stand.
2. That the film be Toy-etic.
This means that there needs to be lots and lots of things that could be made into toys…hence the multiple costumes and batmobiles, etc. George Lucas has proved that you can drown a movie with things that are there solely to sell toys (see Aurra Sing)

So, he’s basically handed a no win scenario. But then again Kirk was faced with the no-win situation with the Kobayashi Maru scenario, and he found a way around it (see Wrath of Khan), so in my book that doesn’t get Joel off the hook.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel for this film. After watching it, I’m pretty sure that there’s a really good drinking game somewhere in there.

Devil’s Playground

An actual movie I had never seen before, that I actually sat through! Can you believe it?

This is a brilliant documentary about the Amish. Sound boring? It’s not.

Whenever an Amish child turns 16, they begin a period called “Rumspringa”. This is basically a time in which they have to choose between joining the church or entering the real world. One day they’re continuing along an extremely sheltered life, the next they get introduced to sex, drugs and rock and roll all at once. As you would expect, most of them go overboard and party like rock stars.

The really fascinating about this flick are the characters. You meet people from all sides. Whether it’s people who decided to leave the Amish world and have had to deal with losing they’re families, or people who went back to the church and why that was. But the focus of the film is of a group of kids who are still trying to decide. Some are already packing their bags, some think they’ll go back. One character (the preachers son) in particular gets so hooked on Crystal Meth that even though he wants to go back to the Amish, he can’t.

This documentary is fascinating and I would recommend it to all of you. The first time you see a bunch of Amish girls in bonnets smoking cigarettes and drinking Coors lite, you can’t help but chuckle, but after that you get engrossed in every one of these characters.

15 Comments:

Blogger Jimbo said...

every now and then, when I'm outside having a camel and enjoying a PBR I put on my old black-rimmed hat for nostalga factor...you know what...it works...and then I go do another line...

Wed Jan 18, 11:08:00 AM PST  
Blogger Train said...

Regardless of the fact that Joel S had some constraints on his vision of the Batman Franchise he still butchered something that had the potential i.e.: Huge Upside. I think it still was a complete failure on the studios part not so much that he is a bad director just for the mere fact he was out of his element. If you stop to take a look at the man’s filmography you do find some films that have a little too modest merit and appeal to most movie goers. He cut his teeth on a horrible movie that is so bad it makes you wonder how Bill Mahr made it anywhere. I am talking about DC Cab. A movie that combined the talent of Mahr, Busey and Mr. T. As an eight year old this movie for some strange reason captivated me. I don’t know if it was just the fact I was watching essential an R rated movie on HBO or the fact it had jokes so bad only an 8 year old would appreciate them. All in All a horrible first effort. But he moved on to Direct St. Elmo’s fire which as Klosteman says it... The movie is really just a sequel to The Breakfast club. But a seminal Brat pack Opus that laid out the whole ’80’s adolescent transition to adulthood. Meaning two hours of coke, manic depression and a kicking pop theme song which still manages to be in JACK FM’s rotation. Joe grabs some cred after that banked those points and directed the Corey’s in The Lost Boys – A personal childhood fav. The majority of kids my age think this even though they won’t admit they like it. You can’t tell me it wasn’t classic ‘80’s. Plus it helped me understand the full magnitude of the Corey phenomenon; really they could have taken over the world… Really that’s a blog just waiting to happen. Joel had success with Flatliners (I am sure this is a Goose fav, with Kevin Back and all)… what I am getting at her is the guy has made some good movies. Don’t think I didn’t over look Falling Down (The angry white man’s revenge – but was the driven more by Douglas and Duvall’s acting? It might but still someone has to direct it.) The Client and 8 mm (which Jayne doesn’t like, but he never likes anything). With a track record like that, I don’t see why they would pick him. Nothing in there tells me you can direct this type of movie. I know you say well look at Nolan and Batman Begins he did Memento before that- Nolan is an exceptional director. A full 3 classes above Joes S. Nolan is what Joel S hopes to be. This could all be pointless since we all know the movies were over once Burton left and there was a vision change… But I still don’t hold that much of a grudge for Joel as much as I do for the Studio.

Wed Jan 18, 11:35:00 AM PST  
Blogger Unknown said...

Good point about Falling Down. The scene where Douglas was in his car in traffic and snaps was pulled off beaufifully and probably was the last good piece of direction that Schumacher has ever made. Also, Lost Boys is what it is. Pure nostalgia & 80's glory.

I think I should warn you all, when a vampire bites it, it's never a pretty sight. No two bloodsuckers go the same way. Some yell and scream, some go quietly, some explode, some implode, but all will try to take you with them.

Plus, I love that Max, the head vampire, was the spokesperson for Dodge for the majority of the 90's. Good times.

Don't ever invite a vampire into your house, you silly boy. It renders you powerless.

Wed Jan 18, 11:48:00 AM PST  
Blogger Goose said...

Wow Train.

See that long horizonal bar under the letters "z x b c v b n m"? Thats a space bar.
If you need to know how to use it. I will be teaching classes at 1pm and 4pm.

Wed Jan 18, 11:50:00 AM PST  
Blogger Casey said...

There's one movie you failed to mention that is probably the biggest part of the equation:

Batman Forever

Mr. Schumacher had already done a go around with Batman that was extremely popular, and bigger than the film that came before it (although I really didn't care for it, there were some shining spots).

The deleted scene's of Batman Forever provide proof that Schumacher at least had an idea as to how to do Batman right. There's an entire subplot of Batman Forever that was removed dealing with a young Bruce Wayne. We see him fall into the cave (in the extact same kind of shot we saw in Batman Begins), and we also learn about the night his parents are killed. It's revealed that Bruce's parents didn't want to go to the movies, but since Bruce was so adamant about going they gave in. Ever since then he's been plagued with guilt about it.

So instead of venturing into those ideas in Batman and Robin, he went for total schlock.

Wed Jan 18, 11:58:00 AM PST  
Blogger Train said...

Just another reason to blame the studio for taking that out?

Unless it was his choice which I doubt.

Wed Jan 18, 12:00:00 PM PST  
Blogger Casey said...

Well the film is over 2 hours long without those scenes, so it was probably more of a director choice. To have an action movie flirt with the 3 hour mark is still a pretty rare thing, and is only really done if your name is Jackson or Spielberg

Wed Jan 18, 12:04:00 PM PST  
Blogger The Dude said...

Falling Down...a great movie...As for Joel S. I have issues getting into a movie he has directed. I thought the Phone Booth was pretty terrible and I personally thought both the Batman movies were poor excuses compared to the Burton films. I think his early work was better but now he is influenced too much from the studio companies.

Wed Jan 18, 12:11:00 PM PST  
Blogger Casey said...

I'll actually come out in defense of Phone Booth. I actually really liked and appreciated it.

It was a great concept piece that worked rather well. Movies that take place in "real time" rarely work, but I thought it was pulled off rather well, especially considering we're talking about Schumacher. It actually reminded me of something Hitchcock would have made.

As for Batman, even the Burton ones have weaknesses. As far as great Batman films go, the conversation begins and ends with Christopher Nolan.

Wed Jan 18, 12:22:00 PM PST  
Blogger Jimbo said...

I was actually going to come to the defense of Schuey, and try to compare his work with that of Tony Scott and basically state that it seems the two bodies of work are not very far apart:

I know my popularity is going to plumment with some of these comments, but I just don't give a damn:

Top Gun/Days of Thunder
*bonus points on the use of the Navy and NASCAR, but seriously, same film here, just different locale and different level of scientology
*BHC II-watchable, but come one...compared to I?
*Spy Game?-ehhhhh...maybe?
*Last Boy Scout, Revenge, Crimson Tide?...all either below decent or a little above depending on your tastes
only exception is True Romance and I think that can be explained like so: "ok ok ok...so like we got this white guy name clarence ok ok...and he is f'n this prostitute name Alabama, only..ok...this is like her first job ok....then ther's this other white guy named drexel, only he thinks he's black ok...then Brad Pitt gets high ok...."

My point: for some reason Scott's films tend to end up on heavy rotation on TNT the same with Schuey's...however, Scott doesn't get near the criticism of Schuey partially because Scott made a better 80's film....and I do believe that paragraph had no point

Anyway, I'm off topic from what I really wanted to say, and that is this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423512/, could be the masterpiece to rival his brother and finally earn that Oscar Gold!

Wed Jan 18, 01:27:00 PM PST  
Blogger Casey said...

That's actually an excellent point about Tony Scott.

While I'm inclined to agree with you, I think there's one main difference between them:

I think Tony Scott is actually a great director that just needs to be tamed a little bit. I think with the right editor, Tony Scott's game would greatly increase. He'll never be Ridley, but so few people ever reach that level.

Schumacher on the other hand, usually lacks decent vision, and is kind of a tool.

I did LOVE True Romance, though. Great film.

Wed Jan 18, 01:43:00 PM PST  
Blogger Unknown said...

You could make the same comparison to a ton of directors. Michael Bay, Chris Columbus, or Roland Emmerich to name a few.

That being said, I'd leave Tony "No, I'm not Ridley" Scott out of the conversation for True Romance alone, plus what about Enemy Of The State or the underrated Man On Fire?

Wed Jan 18, 02:24:00 PM PST  
Blogger Casey said...

I totally forgot about Man on Fire. That movie was great.

Plus he was the executive producer of the "Hire" short films, which I adored. And the short he directed, was one of the best of the bunch. Gary Oldman as the devil...it doesn't get better than that.

Although I kind of thought Enemy of the State was kind of blah.

Wed Jan 18, 02:41:00 PM PST  
Blogger The Dude said...

I have to agree with Joe...Enemy of the State and Man on Fire were decent films.

Any one see Domino??? I think that is a Scott Film...

Wed Jan 18, 02:42:00 PM PST  
Blogger Jimbo said...

thought Enemy of the State was pretty good despite the Will Smith factor...won't see Man on Fire, not a huge Denzel fan, and Dakota Fanning is the anti-Christ...seriously I still don't sleep well following WoftheW...serious...

and I don't think Columbus, Bay and Emmerich really apply to this argument 2.0, I'm talking about two director's that have made films in the same approximate timeline with similar style's and varying results sure, but not that varying....Bay and Emmerich were both poverty-ridden Spielberg clones for 90's matinee cinema...Columbus subject matter has always been a little lighter and occasionaly strikes it rich...

I think Scott/Schuey are closer than most people realize, but separate in many ways...I agree with you MCP, I've always "enjoyed" Tony's worked, while I've downright been "moved" by Ridley's...and True Romance is a great movie, for no other reason than the Walken/Hopper battle royal...

amazing, if only Walken would've starred in Apocolypse Now instead of Sheen...or Brando..."you...you think you're an aaassasin?....you, you're nothing but an errand boy....sent here by....grocery clerkkkks...to collect on a bill...that's what you are..."

Wed Jan 18, 02:47:00 PM PST  

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